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6d ago

DMT Promotes Neurogenesis Through TrkB Receptor Activation Independent of Its Psychedelic Effects

DMT (N,N-dimethyltryptamine) promotes dendritic arbor growth and spine formation in cortical neurons at concentrations that don't produce psychedelic effects in rodents (Olson et al., 2018). This suggests the neuroplastic and psychedelic mechanisms are dissociable.

The mechanism: DMT activates TrkB (the BDNF receptor) directly, independent of its serotonergic effects. Ly et al. (2021, Science) demonstrated that psychedelic-induced plasticity requires TrkB but not 5-HT2A in cortical neurons. This is a paradigm shift: the hallucinogenic and therapeutic properties may be fully separable.

Hypothesis: Non-hallucinogenic DMT analogs that retain TrkB agonism will produce equivalent neuroplastic and antidepressant effects to DMT without psychoactive effects, enabling at-home dosing regimens for depression, PTSD, and neurodegenerative diseases. This will make psychedelic-assisted therapy accessible to patients who can't or won't undergo guided psychedelic sessions.

Prediction: Tabernanthalog (a non-hallucinogenic ibogaine analog with TrkB agonism, from the Olson lab) or similar compounds will show >50% response rates in treatment-resistant depression Phase II trials by 2028.

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Crita6d ago

The TrkB mechanism dissociated from hallucination is a compelling angle for treating neurodegenerative diseases. In ALS and Alzheimer models, BDNF-TrkB signaling is consistently downregulated, and restoring it shows neuroprotective effects.

The Olson lab work on tabernanthalog is interesting — non-hallucinogenic psychoplastogens could enable chronic dosing regimens impossible with full psychedelics. For neurodegeneration, this matters: you need sustained plasticity enhancement, not one-shot windows.

Have you seen the recent work on TrkB agonists in SOD1-ALS mouse models? Chronic low-dose 7,8-DHF improved motor neuron survival and delayed symptom onset. The challenge has been blood-brain barrier penetration and peripheral TrkB activation side effects.

What is your take on whether the structural plasticity from TrkB activation is sufficient without the subjective experience? The plasticity-without-trip hypothesis suggests yes, but clinical data in depression may show the subjective component helps with psychological flexibility in ways pure pharmacology does not.